The-Dream Explains Why He Can’t Write for Ciara, Praises R. Kelly

Ciara and The-Dream

The-Dream’s conversation with Tim Westwood continues. In the second installment of his BBC Radio 1Xtra interview, Terius reveals why he won’t be working on Ciara’s new album, sings “My Cherie Amour” and “Umbrella” acapella, discusses R. Kelly’s influence on R&B, and explains why he clicks so well with Rihanna.

On why he can’t work with Ciara: “I have a contract under Def Jam so it’s only certain people I work with. [The executives] were real smart by putting that in there, I made them pay for it.”

On R. Kelly’s influence: “He held it down. I don’t think this generation of R&B would be at this particular stage without that. R. Kelly was doing it in a hip-hop-dominated culture,” he says, adding, “But we all gotta go down.”

On his success as a recording artist: “I don’t really care about the million album sales. I don’t really care about the number ones because I do those things writing for everybody else, so I can just stay in this spot and I’m comfortable selling 500k and under. Everybody wants to go pop, I don’t.”

On why Rated R is one of Rihanna’s best albums: “That was right after Good Girl Gone Bad. She could of went up and went more pop, but she regressed and went down back into it.”



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69 Comments

  1. x

    aw what a shame… NOT.
    as long as he pens some hits for bey and rih i dont really care.

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    nichelle Reply:

    @x, lol i agree

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    Trina Reply:

    He’s full of s… I don’t believe him. He just did not want to write for her. Stop playing. They would song nice together. What’s wrong with you dream? She has a very nice voice and been in the industry for many years. Well she will have to find somebody else.

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    Trina Reply:

    You have a very beautiful voice but would never take the crown. R Kelly will always be number one. He will be remembered forever. Just maintain your career. Be yourself and try to make the best of it in this new year. Your doing a wonderful job,but you have to give recognition to the artist that paved the way for the young generation. Ciara is on of the best. The left her out because of personal reasons. There were two more people who were listed. You probably didn’t want to sing with her or she refused you assistance.

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  2. Mitchell S Jackson

    He sexy but I ain’t feeling how he did my girl C.Milian!!! Ya might win some but u just lost one… In a falsetto bitch

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  3. Stre3t Danc@

    Ciara didn’t make their list?? Sorry but, what?
    This girl deserves so much more. I’m not feeling it why she’s so underrated, but some “talented singers” like Rihanna are more appreciated. Let’s be honest, Rihanna can’t entertain people, can’t dance, not to mention sing live.
    CiCi’s got so much potential.. it’s a shame huge record labels don’t see it that way.
    But I guess you gotta please the D so you get something in return nowadays #justsayin

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    Thestylisto Reply:

    @Stre3t Danc@, i agree 100%

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    Prettiedove Reply:

    Rihanna is THAT GIRL, accept it or die trying. Oh Rihanna >>>>>>> Ciara. #SitOnIt. @Stre3t Danc@,

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    destiny Reply:

    @Stre3t Danc@, instead of bashing another artist that has achieved more through hard work and a powerful fanbase how about you support your favorite and demand the radio stations and labels to play/release her music…it worked for lupe fiasco and countless other artists so there is no need for Ciara to be in the state she is in…

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    Dave Reply:

    @destiny, I don’t think it’s bashing. They clearly wen’t bashing more. They were stating how they feel, which honestly is the truth. & who’se to say Rihanna has worked more than Ciara? Just because you have more success doesn’t mean you’re a harder worker. For all you know it could be her “team” doing the work, not really her. Which honestly is pretty much obvious. Ciara has vocal lessons, watches her voice, doesn’t smoke (like Rihanna said she would to get a raspier voice, when anyone knows as a serious singer/vocalist, that’s a big no no), has 16 hour dance rehearsals, is always in the studio, co-writes, models. So, how do you say more successful artist work harder than lesser successful artist?

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    Stre3t Danc@ Reply:

    @destiny, I actually do dumba$$, no need to tell me that. I know how to appreciate my fave & promote his work. This is just real talk.. ‘s all.
    Besides, they already mentioned Rihanna so.. yeah. I see yall are mad, it’s my opinion lol idgaf what yall say. It’s not like things are gonna change if u disagree with me :D
    Thanks for being pressed & wasting 5 mins of writing a reply <3

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    NEUTRON Reply:

    @Stre3t Danc@, Why would Ciara make the list when she’s not signed to DefJam?

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    AalexisR Reply:

    @NEUTRON,

    Ciara would make the list if she were a Mega-Star like Beyoncé who he can still work with if he wants to. Like the man said, if Ciara called him and he wanted to work with her he could. He has a short list of stars he can work with outside of Def Jam.

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    Damn ! Reply:

    Ciara and Nicole Scherzinger have so much talent they should both have a Rihanna career !

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    Chiare Reply:

    @Stre3t Danc@, I totally agree with that, Ciara is so underrated. Dats some bull he did.

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  4. Boy Wonder

    Hes a very talented songwriter. I respect him because he makes hits and doesnt act like hes Gods gift to music (i.e. Neyo, Keri Hilson)

    Also, Isn’t it weird that HE’s responsible for songs like “1+1″ “Umbrella” “Single Ladies” etc etc all songs that have…”ILLUMINATed” undertones???

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    HeavyHeavy Reply:

    @Boy Wonder, The Dream is very full of himself although he is very talented he is also very hit and miss.

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    frank Reply:

    @Boy Wonder, yes songs about love, friendship, and power are connected to the “illuminati” yes you hit the nail on its head…

    ………….idiot smh

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    Mb92 Reply:

    @Boy Wonder, you probably don’t know what the illuminati really WAS. Get out of here with that devil worshiper RUMOR

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  5. The_LoveCult

    Follow The-Dream ( @MrTeriusNash ) The Single 4 the New Album Coming This Week #TheLoveIV Dropping early 2012 #RadioKillaRecords TheLoveCult!!! Be Ready for the Takeover!!!

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  6. wonderLand19

    I super happy he’s not working with Ciara. she deserves better.

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    nunya Reply:

    @wonderLand19, Co-sign

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    NEUTRON Reply:

    @wonderLand19, some of Ciara’s best songs came from the Dream. You sound so misinformed.

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    hih8er Reply:

    @NEUTRON, name a song that topped the charts and got heavy radio play that the-dream wrote?
    Ride was an ok (underrated) track.
    She needs someone other than the-dream to write music for her.

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    Dave Reply:

    @NEUTRON, He wrote some good songs from her, I won’t deny that. But most of his stuff is average & very lazy. Hence: “Basic Instinct” as a whole. If you compare, he gives other artist better material than Ciara when he worked with her, & I’m not basing that on charting, I’m basing that on pure quality alone.

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    A Reply:

    @wonderLand19, I think I agree

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    hih8er Reply:

    @wonderLand19, I agree think the only hits they made together are:
    Like a Surgeon
    Speechless
    You Can Get It
    Ride
    and all of those were kind of misses he hasn’t wrote her a hit so i’m glad he’s not working for her and all his songs are starting to sound a like.

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    RACKSONRACKS Reply:

    @hih8er, OH YESSSS I SO AGREE. THE DREAM ISNT FOR CIARA HE JUST AINT, ONCE HE FAILED ON FANTASY RIDE SHE SHOULD HAVE JUST MOVED ON…..EXAMPLE: “CIARA:THE EVOLUTION” WAS AMAZING YET HER BEST ALBUM & DID HE WRITE ON THAT NO!!!!! SO HE DONT NEED TOO CAUSE HIS MUSIC IS ONLY MEANT FOR RIHANNA OR BEYONCE, CIARA IN HER ON LANE WHICH MEANS SHE NEEDS HER OWN WRITTERS & SHE NEEDS TO WRITE MORE OF HER OWN MUSIC POINT! BLANK___ PERIOD.

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  7. Lauryn

    I Respect This Dude, His Real! & As Much As I Think Rihanna Isn’t a Real Artist… Rated R Is Her Best Album! Plus I Hate The Way Pop Is Going, It’s All About Sales & Sh*t. Pop doesn’t respect music genius!!!

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  8. HeavyHeavy

    Its weird how Ciara isn’t on the list considering he worked with her just last year or so for Basic Instinct. And i aint heard about him signing a new def jam contract so it sounds like crap to me.

    I would of believed it if he said he can only work with certain record label’s artists like Dr. Luke is doing. He didn’t do Ciara much good anyway, especially after he slagged her off.

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  9. Prettiedove

    QUEEN Rihanna. #ThatRihannaReignWontLetUp.

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    Jayrican18 Reply:

    @Prettiedove, #RihannaNavy

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    Prettiedove Reply:

    Yassssss. #RihannaNavy all up in this motha! @Jayrican18,

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    Speechless Reply:

    @Prettiedove, is Talk That Talk gold in the US based on ACTUAL sales? I’ll wait.

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    Prettiedove Reply:

    @Speechless, I see u’re terrible at Algebruh, come’on son the weekly ACTUAL sales are being posted every week on @chartnews and @billboard,you can go there & add up all the weekly sales,its simple Algerbruh. Haaa!

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    Lauryn Reply:

    @Prettiedove, #byerihanna. #PuppetRih In This Bi*ch

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  10. ballin like a bxtch

    LMFAO why ciara stans so PRESSED…sheesh just focus on her and not what every other artist is doing, maybe if yall did give ciara the attention that you give to artists who you dislike/are better (bey, ri, etc) maybe she’d actually be worth being on the list

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    Speechless Reply:

    @ballin like a bxtch, Who ever said somebody was pressed. Its 2012 now you need to retire that word, plus ciara is not on the same label as beyonce you dipshit.

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  11. Eric

    OMG what he said about R&B and pop and how if it makes number 1 its not R&B its pop is literally genius because its SOOOOO true…i never realized that until he said it and it makes perfect sense…WOOOOOOOW

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  12. Che

    Well tbqfh I was hoping the Dream had no part in crafting Ciara’s upcoming album. His’ and Tricky’s lackluster production made B.I somewhat forgettable.

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  13. Jayrican18

    Ciara done passed up a good one smh, i actually liked her..

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    Bran Reply:

    @Jayrican18, what are u talking about she passed up a good one? It wasn’t Ciara’s choice that they aren’t able to work together.

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    tues part 2 Reply:

    @Jayrican18, u ARE out of yr dang mind for saying Dat and it wasn’t Ciara’s Choice

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  14. @blowthewhistle_

    Honestly, I think it’s a good idea he isn’t working with Ciara, cause when he started working with her is when her albums were not as successful.

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  15. Audrey Hepburn

    Although he is talented and successful, I lost a lot of respect for him during the whole Christina Millian situation.

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  16. Speechless

    Thank God because his work for Ciara was very sub par. Then he has the nerve to talk mess about her behind her back about work that HE produced. Now she’s working with better producers.

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  17. Ray - What The True Tea Is

    Rihanna, the girl from Barbados, came to America and earned her spot in the Music Industy by gaining fans, unlike some Artist, she knew what she wanted, she was focused and determined, most artist took 3 years just to find their sound, but she didn’t worry about that she just cared about MUSIC, and that’s what has gained her a huge fanebse, MUSIC, not r&b, not po,p not reggae, but MUSIC so talented or not she PAID!

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  18. me

    kelz bitchees my nigga still got it all of it

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  19. tues part 2

    would love to hear/see Ciara write her own song as well proudce it too same thing 4 Riri

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  20. Tavi

    @tues part 2

    Ciara ALWAYS writes her music lol & she lends a hand in production as well. Been doing it since Goodies.

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  21. A Realist

    Good. His songs with Ciara kept flopping anyway.

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  22. Dave

    As he said, her fans (including me, Ciara fan) are happy about that. We really don’t need his mediocre material. She can do better, with better. He won’t be missed.

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  23. no talent

    Rihanna can’t dance can’t sing can’t entertain. 90 million from her last concert. Well the world must really love un talented bytch. The bytch keep making de chedda. Ok let my go go pump up my stereo WFL is on the 100th time today. Dis bytch right ere got no talent kep it coming Ri Ri.

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  24. Kyle

    Him and Ciara worked enough together anyways I think. It’s time Ciara moves on and finds other people to work with. And I agree with him, “Rated R” is Rihanna’s best album for sure!!!

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  25. Mekababy

    I have been reading between his words lately and his body language when he talks about Ciara.I don’t know if he tried to get with her and she turned him down or if her fans rubbed him the wrong way.Their relationship is definitely not what it used to be.He sounds upset about something.

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    Chiare Reply:

    @Mekababy, Oh damn, I didn’t think about it like dat.

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  27. Crazi

    Dream is VERRRRY SUccessful Writer and PRODUCER. I respect his artistry. LOVE IT!

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  28. nicegirl

    I kept getting distracted by the cute guy looking bored behind him LOL.

    Anyway, it doesn’t really matter if The Dream doesn’t work with Ciara. She needs to experiment with different producers anyway. But The Dream has no clue about relationships.

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  29. Cici

    Now im a BIG Ciara fan but im not gonna go bashing Rihanna becuz of that….I like Rih i think she is a entertainer but not a performer…..she make great songs cuz she puts that rih quality on even if she didnt write it….now Im def happy that this (The Dream-whos own solo career flopped) is not writing for GREAT..people forget before CIARA got signed that she Was a songwriter…..she wrote a song for Fantasia first album (she has said it before) But i think Ciara just need to really work hard on her work and dnt worry bout watelse is in the industry cuz she is not like anyone else in this industry PERIOD #ORIGINALITY! (Other than some artist #Cough)

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    Chiare Reply:

    @Cici, Exactly. That’s it. Lol.

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  30. European

    I’M SO HAPPY HE WON’T WORK WITH CIARA! He destroyed BASIC INSTINCT!

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    Chiare Reply:

    @European, Wtf, r u talking bout, watz wrong wit u?

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  31. Cici

    Now all my Ciara fans can we plz move on from talking bout the dream lame ass and rihanna and beyonce and all these other people yall think about putting up and focus on our Girl CIARA and not worry about them…….

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  33. ewww

    he is a hot ass mess! i used to like him too! but i really dont like him!

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  34. JoJo

    thank god he cant write for ciara because basic instinct was luke-warm and flooped real bad he needs to stick to writting for the Queen Rih .

    *sits & plays Rihanna- Do ya thang*

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  35. Antonio

    After Dream wrote Umbrella and Single Ladies, Jive thought they’d have him come in and write a quick hit like those 2 for Ciara and it didn’t work. Why do you think Bey said IASF is her worst album, because Dream gave her some basic shit, and once she no longer worked with him, she poured her heart/body/soul/mind/energy/time into her next album and gave us her masterpiece with 4. Ciara just got comfortable with Dream writing some basic Urban/Pop songs for her, yeah she helped co write some of them, but they were still basic AF. I’m pretty sure Ciara is working on some brand new material as we speak. She is good songwriter herself, she was the primary writer on Goodies and The Evolution, as well as a producer on The Evolution. The Dream is just another music industry money grubber, if the artist is hot, he’ll write a hot song, if they’re not, well look at Ciara.

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