Frank Ocean Talks 'Blonde' in Unreleased Interview

In the wake of his beef with the Grammys, a previously unreleased Frank Ocean interview has surfaced.

Clocking in at just over two-and-a-half minutes, the split-screen clip shows a close-up and wide angle look at Ocean. In it, he discusses a “project,” which most are assuming refers to Blonde or Endless.

“Making this project, I haven’t shied away from expectations,” he explained. “I’ve really tried to use it as fuel because people have a positive association of what I do and what I make. They expect something that’s good, so okay, how do you convert that into a better moment, a better song, a better album, a better presentation?”

During the Q&A, Ocean also talked about his creative process and some of its frustrations. “The most frustrating thing about the process of doing this is that there’ve been a bunch of times where you feel really you fucked up, just fucked it up, somehow,” he said. “It’s irreversible. It already happened and there’s nothing you can do about it. You don’t know if even moving on makes it better… But you gotta move on. You gotta try.”

Filled with hissing noises, the conversation also includes insight into Frank’s mindset upon releasing new material. “There is no fantasy on this record,” he said. “It’s all, for better or for worse, autobiographical, my experience, the foundation, what’s made me who I am. In doing so, you come out with this thing where you do feel like you’ve defeated something.”

The mysterious clip popped up on @TeamFrankDaily’s Twitter account first, according to Complex. It was then pulled from the social media platform and has since been removed from at least one YouTube account. Its official origins are unknown.

Over the weekend, Ocean continued an ongoing feud with the Grammys. Responding to an interview in which the show’s producers criticized his 2013 performance, Frank bashed the Recording Academy. “Use the old gramophone to actually listen bro, I’m one of the best alive,” he wrote. “And if you’re up for a discussion about the cultural bias and general nerve damage the show you produce suffers from then I’m all for it.”